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Politics and your OH

posted at 8/11/2009 9:25 PM GMT
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First post: 10/11/2008
Last post: 9/11/2009
I'm wondering if anyone else has heated discussions about politics with your partner and, if so, does it bother you if you disagree?

My family is generally left wing and my boyfriend's is right wing. I admit that I don't know all that much about it and I am trying to read up on it to make up my own mind but I feel stuck between the strong views of my boyfriend and my brother. It started when my brother said that if the tories come into power, he'll leave the country and my boyfriend said that was ridiculous. My boyfriend tends to criticise my brother's views to me so I get defensive of my brother but I don't really know why my brother thinks what he does because I don't know enough about it. I've asked my boyfriend to ask my brother directly if he's interested but he thinks they'd get into an argument and that it'd cause bad feeling.

My boyfriend and I don't discuss MPs so much, more issues such as:
  • Should people who repeatedly ignore health warnings from the NHS continue to get free treatment?
  • Should the wealthy be taxed more?
  • Should people who make no effort to get a job continue to get the benefits?
  • Should people who can afford to pay for healthcare have to pay for it to save NHS resources?
It often seems to boil down to the fact that I believe that the richer / stronger members of society have an obligation to help the poorer / weaker ones and he doesn't. The arguments aren't nasty or disrespectful at all - they probably don't even count as arguments. He says it doesn't matter if we think differently - our views won't change the law so it's all hypothetical anyway and it needn't affect our relationship. I'm not so sure. It upsets me because it makes me worry about our compatibility but I don't know if I'm just being hypersensitive. I get really emotional and frustrated because I feel that I don't know enough to put up a good argument.

Anyone got any opinions on this?

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 8/11/2009 9:53 PM GMT
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Last post: 9/11/2009
I can't see why he seems to be making it such a big issue.  I do agree that the richer members of society should assist the poorer ones, but no way an obligation.  Some people are lazy, and don't want to work, let alone help themselves.  But back to your point, unless he is constantly going on about it, I can't see why you can't agree to disagree.  Your affection towards each other, unless I am mistaken is not based on political allegiances.  

The only inconvenience I can see is when your family and him clash, I would just tell both parties to
be nice to each other during the family get togethers.  

Only other issue, I am guessinghe is in the "rich" group. I am definitely not in that group, but I 100% 
agree that people who repeatedly ignore health warnings from the NHS should have treatment stopped, also believe that that people who make no effort to get a job have  benefits stopped.


On a lighter note, tell him to watch a few episodes of the secret millionaire.
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Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 8/11/2009 10:12 PM GMT
Total posts: 267
First post: 10/11/2008
Last post: 9/11/2009
Yes, he would probably be classed as quite well off.

He doesn't go on about it as such but if he makes a comment that I disagree with, I'd usually challenge him on it and vice versa.

We can agree to disagree but at the back of my mind is the worry that political incompatibilities mean relationship incompatibilities!

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 9/11/2009 10:46 AM GMT
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First post: 25/6/2006
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well it depends how much you apply your political views in your life, some people beleive in certatin things but in everyday life their actions may be different. i mean your bf says he conservative so he is about the individual helping himself adn so on but in everyday life does he donate money or time to others who need it? with poltiics especially today its about centre left adn centre right when you do have a political discussion keep in mind that its a discussion and not personal if you dont understand then ask questions, i can understand this frustration. its good you can discuss these things as long as you can agree about teh principles in your own lives and future that matters really.
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Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 9/11/2009 1:06 PM GMT
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Its s tricky one. Is it something that he constantly brings up? If your always having these conversations and disagreeing then I think it would be only natural to reconsider your compatibility as a result. You say that you can agree to disagree so it doesnt sound as though it has too much impact, but do you actually respect each others decisions? You say your family are typically left wing, but you need to work out your own stance on it all. As Igloo says, ask questions to understand why people feel the way that they do. Do your own research and see how you truly feel about it all in order to decide whether your really feel left or right field. Only then do I think that you can really decide whether you can respect his thoughts and stay with him, or whether it bothers you enough to part.
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Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 9/11/2009 2:10 PM GMT
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My husband's views are different from mine but we generally live with them because neither us is especially into politics so it is not something we talk about much. I can imagine, though, if it is important to either of you, it might cause problems.

I don't see what it has got to do with your brother, though, or why your boyfriend is so concerned about what he thinks. If it were me, I'd ban all political discussion while both of them are in the house.

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 9/11/2009 7:59 PM GMT
Total posts: 115
First post: 22/2/2008
Last post: 20/11/2009
Hey, at least you can have a proper political discussion; my husband doesn't tell me what he votes, but he doesn't seem to have any formed ideas about any politics at all. He makes up silly policies he'd like to see, like legalising chav-hunting and banning stupid people and what he calls 'poor people' from reproducing. I'm sure that, given the option, he'd find a way to put Jeremy Clarkson in charge of the UK.

Don't worry about it; people get really heated about these things as they are convinced they are correct, and I'm sure there's no real bad feeling.

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 9/11/2009 8:54 PM GMT
Total posts: 267
First post: 10/11/2008
Last post: 9/11/2009
Igloo - yes, it is all hypothetical discussions ("what would you change if you were in government?") and not something which affects what we actually do.

*loveme* - he doesn't constantly bring it up. I tend to ask lots of questions because I'm interested in what he thinks.

Faddy - We're not that into politics generally but I think he's concerned about what my brother thinks because they have views at really opposite ends of the spectrum. My boyfriend says I've been hugely influenced by my brother, which is true to an extent, but I do have my own mind aswell!

Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll have to start researching! x

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 10/11/2009 12:12 PM GMT
Total posts: 80
First post: 2/6/2009
Last post: 19/11/2009

I'm somewhat right wing and my boyfriend is generally pretty liberal. We do ok when we discuss politics and can generally laugh off our differences.

I have some very good friends who are very left wing and I love and respect them but I don't think I could be in a relationship with someone with their views. My political beliefs reflect my hopes for the future and I want my partner to share my key views, particularly as we hope to have kids together.

Re: Politics and your OH

posted at 10/11/2009 1:07 PM GMT
Total posts: 2407
First post: 1/4/2005
Last post: 19/11/2009
Its good that you planning to do your own research, thats the essential point here I think to ensure that your informed on it all. However, as Evana pointed out, you need to work out how you feel in terms of the influence it could have down the line, if you were to have kids etc.
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