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just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 9/11/2009 1:23 AM GMT
Total posts: 6
First post: 9/11/2009
Last post: 11/11/2009

Hi there,
This is my first post, so bear with me! It's all a bit long and complicated but the jist of the story is: I've just moved to Australia to be with partner who's Aussie, whom I met in England. We've been together 3 and a half years, but once his working visa ran out, we spent a year apart during which time I applied for a visa to be with him in Oz.

I moved here at the beginning of the year and we had a secret wedding so we could stay together (my friends and family back home know, only a few of his in Oz know about it.) I have no friends or family of my own here and I'm finding that hard.

Thing is my relationship with my partner is extremely volatile - always has been. We can be good one day and have a horrendous argument the next day that results in screaming matches, walls being punched etc. We're both hot-tempered and highly strung and he has a lot of anger.

A lot of our rows center on my need for more affection, reassurance. I sometimes look at other couples and wish my partner was as naturally affectionate, a kiss here, a stroke of the hair there. He can be monosyllabic a lot of the time. And we only seem to sleep with each other at weekends at the moment. During the week we could be flatmates. I've brought up the fact I need more attention but it results in more rows.

My self-esteem is really low at the moment and it didn't help when I found out he'd been looking at porn on my computer behind my back a month or so ago. I felt really betrayed and cried and threatened to go and he assured me it was something he wouldn't do again.

My insecurity/jealousy has been rife ever since. Over the weekend I made a fool out of myself by storming out of a bar over a comment - which I took as incriminating - someone made about him and this girl (who is supposedly obsessed with him). I was drunk and irrational but he didn't follow me out - he apparently just got really angry over it and almost had a fight with his best friend.

He came home ten hours later and took the moral high ground with me, saying I'd stormed off in front of all his friends as though he were embarrassed (so now they all know how insecure I am). The fallout was typically violent and horrid (emotionally rather than physically.)

Now, it's all a day away, I think he would quite happily brush this under the carpet again. He's even told me he needs more space and needs to see his friends and told me he wishes I'd do something with myself, too. (As if I don't! It's so hard not having any friends outside of his circle.)

Anyway, that was one long ramble. I just don't know what to do. I've got no one to stay with, no one on my timezone to discuss it with and don't want to worry people back home. Part of me just wants to get on a plane and go home, but the stakes are so high in our English/Aussie relationship that if I left it wouldn't be easy to change my mind back...

I suppose my main issue is not feeling reassured or loved enough even though I have made a massive sacrifice to come here. I can't stand the thought of this being the pattern of our relationship for as long as we stay together and I just wish he'd show how much he loved me by compromising on the affection thing. I don't know how to bring it up without it resulting him letting out a sigh and saying "not this again..."

Any advice greatly appreciated. Sorry it was so long...

x

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 9/11/2009 8:36 AM GMT
Total posts: 386
First post: 24/3/2009
Last post: 10/11/2009
I don't want to come across as rude so please forgive me if I do, but if your relationship has always been so volatile and you have been losing so much confidence, why are you still together? Why did you move to Oz with him? During that year apart, did you see each other at all?

I think that part of the problem is that you don't have any family/friends and are having to rely on him a lot, which he doesn't seem to be appreciating. Have you spoken to him about how lonely you are? Part of the whole reassurance/affection thing could be down to the loneilness you are feeling. You don't feel wanted by anyone at the moment and are craving it all from him. Or was this an issue before you moved?

I am talking from experience, I moved abroad with my OH 12 months ago and I have been struggling with self esteem/affection/loneliness for months. It has literally been the past 6 weeks, since I started making more friends that things have changed for me.

Do you work? Or are there any clubs you could join? Forums are also a fab way to meet people in the area. I would suggest you speak to you OH and explain how it is, why you are seeking all this affection. He should know from being in the UK how things are.



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Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 9/11/2009 1:22 PM GMT
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Brilliant advice from Sleepybird and I completely agree. It sounds as though your craving his attention as you have a lack of support from other people. Are you working etc now that your living there? If so, then is there anyone at work who is a potential friend? Or try joining a class, group, anything that puts you around other people.

However I also wonder why you married him if it has always been volatile. Has he ever been violent to you? Its one thing to be highly strung, but as he knew you were moving there, he should have been far more supportive of you taking that leap.

If it were me... I would be on the next plane to England.
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posted at 9/11/2009 10:46 PM GMT
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First post: 9/11/2009
Last post: 11/11/2009
In Response to Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...:
Brilliant advice from Sleepybird and I completely agree. It sounds as though your craving his attention as you have a lack of support from other people. Are you working etc now that your living there? If so, then is there anyone at work who is a potential friend? Or try joining a class, group, anything that puts you around other people. However I also wonder why you married him if it has always been volatile. Has he ever been violent to you? Its one thing to be highly strung, but as he knew you were moving there, he should have been far more supportive of you taking that leap. If it were me... I would be on the next plane to England.
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Thanks for your replies. He's never been violent, we just have a fiery relationship. I really love him and that's what kept us going through the year that we were apart. We saw each once during that time as we were saving for visa, flights etc for when I came over for good. I used to think our relationship was as tumultuous as it was because we were living under the fear of eventually being split up (cos of the Visas). I suppose there was an idealistic part of me that thought that wouldn't happen when we were together again without that hanging over our heads. I have a job, the people are nice but generally keep themselves to themselves. I hate sounding so pathetic! I had a nice, busy life with lots of friends and family when I was back home. I suppose I just have to decide whether I can carry on like this or whether to cut my losses once and for all.
I often wish he was a little more sensitive and sympathetic to me, maybe I just need to let the idea of us together go and move on. Although it will break my heart!
Thanks guys x

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posted at 9/11/2009 11:13 PM GMT
Total posts: 10
First post: 9/11/2009
Last post: 14/11/2009
Gosh you poor thing - I would suggest you try couples therapy and definitely get out of the house more - as the posts say, join a club, take up a new sport - anything!
Good luck - its awful being lonely and hard without the support of friends and family.

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 9/11/2009 11:37 PM GMT
Total posts: 6
First post: 9/11/2009
Last post: 11/11/2009

cheers hon. yeah, think counselling could be the only way out of this. am out of the house quite a lot - go to work, gym, trying to write a play... i'm not a cling-on, just don't feel very lovable at the moment. last night we got on fine when we got home. i spoke to my mum and she said i should withdraw a bit mentally, look after myself and put him out of my head. she knows how mortified i am by saturday night. anyway, he seemed perfectly happy with this. didn't bring up world war III from the day before, just plodded through the evening - no hugs, kisses or real conversation - as though nothing had happened. i can't carry on like this but am a bit worried about how to bring it up eventually. think i'll just carry on just trying not to be too hard on myself for the moment... he tells me how much he loves me, cries etc whenever we come close to breaking up and i believe him, but am starting to think - after nearly 4 years! - that i am being a bit naive...

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 10/11/2009 10:37 AM GMT
Total posts: 386
First post: 24/3/2009
Last post: 10/11/2009
Why would you be naive believing that he means it when he says he loves you? Some people are just not that affectionate, its not because they don't care.

I think you need to forget what happened on Saturday night for now, we all get a bit tipsy and make a prat out of ourselves once in a while. And if his main concern is about his mates knowing about your insecurities than he really needs a boot up the arse.

You don't need to continue like this. You are unhappy and suffering and noone deserves to live like that. Think about what is really making you unhappy, is it your relationship or is it the move and leaving behind all your friends/family? Then, you can decide how you can work on it. If its your rellie, get some counselling, if its the move then try and make a network around you or decide whether you need to leave.
Mountains rise and fall, and under them the Turtle swims onward.
Men live and die, and the Turtle Moves.
Empires grow and crumble, and the Turtle Moves.
Gods come and go, and still the Turtle Moves.
The Turtle Moves. - Terry Pratchett "Small Gods"

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 10/11/2009 5:58 PM GMT
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Last post: 20/11/2009
Aaah, you sound so sad MsN.

If you are by nature a happy bubbly person then this will come back, you just need to adjust to your new life.

I can't really add anything to what has already been posted so just

"and that's all i have to say about that..."

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 10/11/2009 10:44 PM GMT
Total posts: 6
First post: 9/11/2009
Last post: 11/11/2009
Thanks guys,
I am pretty low. Not sleeping and just had a moment cos they've got the red Christmas cups in Starbucks in Oz and it reminds me of home - had to stop myself from crying in front of the Starbucks girl!!

I knew it would be hard moving so far away but I thought things with me and my boy would make up for it. Thing is, I feel so disconnected from him. Whenever I bring up how I feel it seems to just make him frustrated or impatient to the point where I hate the sound of my own voice!

My real problem is the relationship not the being in another country. I understand that some people just aren't naturally affectionate but it feels like it's more than that. Don't feel I can carry on in a relationship where I have to hide my real feelings just to keep everything ticking along. I really don't how to bring this up with him now, without sounding like I'm being "whingey, melodramatic etc". I tell him I'm unhappy and he throws his hands in the air as if I'm just some needy drama queen, when it's what I'm really feeling.

I'm starting to question and doubt my own feelings probably because he doesn't take them seriously. Have spoken to my mum now who says just because I have invested years in this and just cos we did get married (which I mistakenly thought would bring us closer) doesn't mean I have to stick with it... When I think back to the early days I have to admit there were many times when I felt insecure and unhappy. Thing is and I know this makes me sound stupid I still really fancy him!! It used to feel mutual and that's what kept us going through the rows - the strong physical attraction. But now I think even that's gone on his side... I don't want to paint him as a horrid person cos he's not he has a good heart, nice family and generally comes from a good place.

Think I just need help seeing the wood for the trees!
x

Re: just married, away from home, v lonely and upset...

posted at 11/11/2009 7:52 AM GMT
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First post: 8/2/2005
Last post: 16/11/2009
Sadly it doesnt seem like he can give you what you are looking for. I'm also worried about the 'volitile' relationship that you seem to think is ok. It isn't ok or normal for people to punch holes on walls. That isnt how you treat someone you love. If you love someone you wouldn't want to scare them or make them feel worthless.

I think that sometimes people believe that volitile means passionate. It doesn't. It is usually the start of very controlling behaviour. They manage to control you as they are so 'nice' they rest of the time, so you walk on egg shells to avoid their outbursts.

It seems like you have given him excuses for his poor behaviour - waiting for visas (after you thought he'd change, and then getting married (after you thought he'd change). He hasn't changed. I agree with your mum, just because you have 'invested' time and money in this doesnt mean you have to stay miserable. You are allowed to save yourself from years more of being treated this way.
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