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Re: If its not one thing its another!

posted at 6/7/2009 2:20 PM BST
Total posts: 81
First post: 2/6/2009
Last post: 21/11/2009
My ex-husband was in a fight that started when a drunk guy yelled at his ex-girlfriend, went to hit her and my ex and his mate stepped in. He took offence at not getting to hit her (!) and started a physical fight with my ex and his friend. The guy that started it ended up dead after someone (not my ex or his friend) pushed him, he went down and hit his head. Fortunately the huge number of witnesses meant it went down as death through misadventure. From what my ex told me, the guy that pushed him was no different from himself, just a guy trying to avoid getting hurt or seeing those around him get hurt.

I'd have an issue if a guy I was seeing had made an agressive move but I never had a problem with my ex trying to stop someone getting hit which resulted in a bar fight.

Re: If its not one thing its another!

posted at 6/7/2009 10:06 PM BST
Total posts: 3449
First post: 18/11/2003
Last post: 21/7/2009
Hey scaredandunsure, 
It sounds like he has taken responsibility for his actions and their consequences, which is one of the most important elements of 'rehabilitation', although that's not quite the right word given that his actions were unintentional. NACRO promote the reintegration of ex-offenders and they're website lists organisations that work with families and friends of offenders, you may find some of them useful, either to read about or, if your relationship continues and you feel you would like to hear from others in a similar position, in person. http://www.nacro.org.uk/

Good luck. 

Re: If its not one thing its another!

posted at 6/7/2009 10:19 PM BST
Total posts: 30799
First post: 18/3/2003
Last post: 16/11/2009

Blimey, what a horribly sad story. It may be an unpopular viewpoint, but I feel horribly sad for your boyfriend. He was a twat, yes, but how many people act in fury - and how many of them kill their friends by mistake? He has to live with this for the rest of his life and no amount of prison will be as much punishment.

I think DreamsofHome is right and he has shown honour in confessing this to you - especially early on in the relationship.  He wants to be honest and upfront and I applaud him for this. Aggression in anyone is unattractive - but if my erstwhile best friend had robbed my parents, I don't know if I'd be so restrained with my fists. It was an instant of understandable (IMO) fury and he will never be able to take back what he did. I don't think he's aggressive, either. I think walloping someone for such a huge betrayal is quite a normal human reaction - it's not right, of course not - but it doesn't make him aggressive. It makes him human!

I hope that his future is happier than his past and if you decide to be part of it I don't think that would be an unwise choice.

Re: If its not one thing its another!

posted at 6/7/2009 10:26 PM BST
Total posts: 2601
First post: 5/10/2005
Last post: 24/9/2009
I think you need to find out more before you can make any real judgement. He sounds like he's being honest and letting you know what's happened so he can help you both get through it if you want to.

At this stage, it's really just a question of whether he's already told you something you don't think you could live with. We've all made mistakes and had accidents and his up-front admittance of that should probably be respected, not used against him. Saying that, though, don't get dragged into staying with him through sympathy.
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