The ex-Apprentice stars faced each other for the second of Channel 5's big debates.
The first saw Katie Hopkins once again, say nothing of merit.
So, last night as Channel 4 was having it's own debate following the last episode of Benefits Street, Katie and Luisa - you know, the experts -got talking immigration.
Katie said things like, "If you need an interpreter then you need a travel agent and should get packing."
Meanwhile Luisa pointed out, "Who picks our strawberries? Because you can bet your bottom dollar English people would go there for one day and then leave because it's too much like hard work."
Whoever you agree with - it's OK if it's neither - it seems clear that they really need to just put Katie Hopkins in a dark room somewhere and stop putting her on the TV.
If you're going to have a debate, please can we hear from people who know what they're talking about?
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