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This is a update/follow-up to this original thread:

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Where to start? She isn't my GF as I said in the OP. She is my Fiance.

After all the fun and games in the above tread we met up over in East Anglia for her birthday on Tuesday.

We had a lovely time like it used to be and then we found somewhere quiet to have The Chat.

She told me that the house went through quickly and, as she didn't know what she wanted out of life or where she wanted to be, she lodged in her ex's new house as she didn't want to be tied down by a rental/lease agreement. She said they each had their own rooms and they had agreed to not bring people other people back which I took to mean lovers.

She didn't tell me because she didn't know how I would take it.
I was calm, collected and supportive even so inside the loudest alarm bells possible were ringing.

She did allow me to drop her off but she actually made me pull over before her road and kiss her goodnight then and when she left me it was a peck on the cheek, she didn't look back even going into the house whilst I saw her in.

I drove home and thought through things and had a pretty rough next day and we had an argument.

We made up yesterday and I asked her out straight whether...

....her ex wasn't her ex or not? She said yes he was
....whether they were married or not? She said no they weren't
....if they were just friends what the relationship was like? She said more than friends but not lovers
....did they socialise together? Yes
....she actually owned the house too? No

I just didn't believe her to be honest so I did something that I felt awful doing, but in the end it proved productive: I bought the title deads for where she lived.

She and he "ex" sold their 175k house and she did indeed own with him a 323k house now.

The texts had gotten lovey dovey and frequent again in the day and I texted her and said "one more question please?" she said yes and I asked "do you own the house with xxxx?" she replied "no".

I just texted "goodbye"....

She called and I confonted her and she admitted she had problems with the truth but she did not have a sexual relationship with xxxxx.

I asked her how, if there is no bfgf relationship with xxxx, how she could buy a house with him? One of the reasons for us cooling off she told me was that the stress of having to negotiate an equal split with her "ex" plus dividing the house contents and having to set up on her own was on of the reasons we had cooled.

One of the reasons that I hadn't met her family beyond her Mother back in the day, is that she told me her brother in law and xxx (the "ex") socialised and she didn't want xxx to find out about me and be spiteful with the house-split. We had also had lots of words in the past when i said i hated being an apparent secret part of her life ring-fenced off geographically and emotionally from the rest of her life...

So where are we?

She has told me she loves me and that she is sorry and in a few days time we will chat properly and she will be honest with me. Don't see her being honest tbh...

What I think is the case is this.

She was going through a rough patch with xxx and they had split up and she saw me.

But

They got back together and she couldnt give me up.

So I made someone the focus of my life, introduced her to my son and took her to my parents 40th wedding anniversary celebrations, believed what she said about herself and her life, asked her to be my wife and trusted her without reason and do you know what?

It looks like all along I was her male mistress.

I will listen to what she says and I want to be with her as I am in love with what I think she is, but deep down I know it's a lost cause.

I never loved my ex-wife as much as I love her, but her life that I think I know is a lie and she has used me.

I don't think I will ever trust or love again.
ceammi
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i'm sorry sorry you're hurting but you keep giving her chances and then say you feel hurt and betrayed? why do you keep giving her chances? why do you keep allowing her to hurt you? why do you keep hoping when everything she does proves that she doesn't give a damn about you?

you have to take some responsibility here and walk away, cut all contact, stop giving her chances. would you feel any worse than you do without her in your life? no, you wouldn't. and you would get over her, time is a great healer.

be strong, walk away and cut the lying, cheating scumbag out of your life. you can do it, and ultimately you'll feel better for it.
me_at_work
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I'm sorry too but ceammi is spot on.

This woman doesn't care about you, you will never be able to trust her because she doesn't care about lying to you. You deserve so much better and need to walk away.

Yes it'll be hard, nobody would ever pretend otherwise but can you really keep putting yourself through this. As Ceammi said, will you honestly feel any worse than you feel now.
SexDrugsRockRoll
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she sounds like she�s completely messing with you. i feel for you - not knowing what to believe, and being completely in love with her..

do you think a normal, healthy relationship could ever develop from this?? i think not.. i think once the foundations of lies have been put down, it is very very difficult to remove them, ever. you will always be doubting what she tells you. it�s one of the worse things that can happen to a relationship, and you will probably never one hundred percent believe much of what she says ever again.

the very fact you�ve had to post about this means that things aren�t right in the relationship, and you know they�re not right. you�ve got two options, really. to stick with her and to attempt to trust her again, which will be extremely hard after her abusing your trust the first time round. or you could walk away right now with your head held high, and learn from it. i�d walk away now - if she can�t be honest with you at this stage of your relationship, how about 20 years down the line when you�re in further and married with kids??

you sound like a great guy, and you do deserve better than this. i hope things work out for you x
SexDrugsRockRoll
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oh i forgot to add - if you do chose the latter, to walk away, then i would do what ceammi suggested and cut all contact. maintaining it will be very difficult and give her a good chance to worm her way in with excuses and you might end up getting caught up in it all again, and the cycle begins...

be strong!
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I know you're all right...

She's going to telephone at 4.30pm today and we will talk properly.

I am a hairy-arsed burly ex-rugby player. A man's man. I drink beer, I find farts funny and I love my son.

And I feel like endng it all. The bitch.

I want closure later, the truth so I can move on and I have arranged to go and stay with friends as to be honest I don't trust myself.

SexDrugsRockRoll
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i still wouldn�t expect her to tell you the whole truth today. if she realises you�re thinking about ending it, she�ll be desperate to stop you.. telling the truth won�t stop you.

have you made a definite decision, or are you going to see what happens later when you talk things through??


GEORGIEGIRL104
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Just wanted to give you a hug and promise you there are far more suitable, fun, kind women out there, you just need to ditch this one so you have a chance to meet them.

x
ceammi
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you expect the truth from her? you're never going to get it. she's proven that.

the only way to get closure and move on is to be the one who cuts her off and walks away. that's the only way. by allowing her to call you when she decides and allowing her to talk when she wants to gives her the power. by cutting all contact now and walking away you're in charge.
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And I feel like endng it all.


Don't do that. You have a son who loves you and needs you. It would f*ck up his life forever if you did that. Go stay with your friends, scream, rant, cry and then start picking up the pieces. But don't let one silly fruitloop irretrievably damage your son's life, ok?
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