http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACt9R9z37U
I'm impressed with this have to admit.
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What can I say.. this looks awesome!!... http://www.break.com/index/milo-and-project-natal-are-the-future-of-gaming.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACt9R9z37U
I'm impressed with this have to admit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACt9R9z37U
I'm impressed with this have to admit.
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What can I say.. this looks awesome!!... http://www.break.com/index/milo-and-project-natal-are-the-future-of-gaming.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACt9R9z37U
I'm impressed with this have to admit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oACt9R9z37U
I'm impressed with this have to admit.
Wooooaaaahhh that is very cool! Gaming might be going to get rather tiring.
<strong>All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swif
I wonder if it will work though.. I suppose it's a few years off before it's available. But unlike the Wii we'll have a choice on playing with a controller or not.
I can't see how to play shooter games though, I think you would feel a bit daft pointing your fingers to shoot
I can't see how to play shooter games though, I think you would feel a bit daft pointing your fingers to shoot
I'm wondering to how well in reality it'll work, as it is I haven't got enough space by a long shot.
I might suddenly get a lot better at shooters though, I always have trouble with the dual stick controls. I can't see how the movement controls would work with games like Tekken, or split screen multiplayer.
I hope it won't go down the same route as the Wii and it's many mini-game compilations
I might suddenly get a lot better at shooters though, I always have trouble with the dual stick controls. I can't see how the movement controls would work with games like Tekken, or split screen multiplayer.
I hope it won't go down the same route as the Wii and it's many mini-game compilations
<strong>All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swif
The aspect of the person being the controller I think is just another natural step that for many games will just increase the admissions to casualty and reduce the problem of RSI.
The use in the "Milo" clip worries me. A lot.
For most people computer games are a bit of escapism that is generally harmless and may even have a positive benefit in developing hand eye co-ordination as well as problem solving skills. For some though it is already a step into social isolation that for the individuals concerned causes more issues than it resolves. As social simulation games start to kick in and improve we are I think going to see this problem become more acute and more common.
God forbid what folk like the PUA crowd would do with such technology, it does literally make me shudder to think about the consequences of that sort of thing.
The use in the "Milo" clip worries me. A lot.
For most people computer games are a bit of escapism that is generally harmless and may even have a positive benefit in developing hand eye co-ordination as well as problem solving skills. For some though it is already a step into social isolation that for the individuals concerned causes more issues than it resolves. As social simulation games start to kick in and improve we are I think going to see this problem become more acute and more common.
God forbid what folk like the PUA crowd would do with such technology, it does literally make me shudder to think about the consequences of that sort of thing.
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I'm wondering to how well in reality it'll work, as it is I haven't got enough space by a long shot.
I might suddenly get a lot better at shooters though, I always have trouble with the dual stick controls. I can't see how the movement controls would work with games like Tekken, or split screen multiplayer.
I hope it won't go down the same route as the Wii and it's many mini-game compilations
I might suddenly get a lot better at shooters though, I always have trouble with the dual stick controls. I can't see how the movement controls would work with games like Tekken, or split screen multiplayer.
I hope it won't go down the same route as the Wii and it's many mini-game compilations
Yeah, i'm not sure entirely how it would work or even how well it will work as a whole.. but I do like the fact that you can choose between either a controller or you can leap about. I think it's probably likely that there will be a new range of games just for that bit. Apparently the new controller for xbox is coming out at christmas i've heard so this is probably a few years off yet.
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For some though it is already a step into social isolation that for the individuals concerned causes more issues than it resolves. As social simulation games start to kick in and improve we are I think going to see this problem become more acute and more common. God forbid what folk like the PUA crowd would do with such technology, it does literally make me shudder to think about the consequences of that sort of thing.
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Posted by Sealy Fella
See, now I an see your point ( and yes the PUA crowd doesn't bear thinking about).. but if you flip the coin and look at the other side.. I see a whole new world for those people who can't for whatever reason develop 'normal' social skills.. those who are agrophobic for eg. It's very easy to think of the damage this technology can do when you're pretty much 'normal' and have a full and varied life...but there are people who maybe have issues like autism (mild enough to not be apparent to the outside world but still can hold a person back) or severe social phobia who could benefit from technology like this. You can see it as slipping further into social isolation, where's I can see it as opening a door in an already lonely miserable existance.
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In Response to Re: Project natal : See, now I an see your point ( and yes the PUA crowd doesn't bear thinking about).. but if you flip the coin and look at the other side.. I see a whole new world for those people who can't for whatever reason develop 'normal' social skills.. those who are agrophobic for eg. It's very easy to think of the damage this technology can do when you're pretty much 'normal' and have a full and varied life...but there are people who maybe have issues like autism (mild enough to not be apparent to the outside world but still can hold a person back) or severe social phobia who could benefit from technology like this. You can see it as slipping further into social isolation, where's I can see it as opening a door in an already lonely miserable existance.
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Posted by THEREALDEAL
One of the only constantb themes of my life has been group therapy, individual counselling I have picked up and put down over the years, but the longest gap I have had when I have not facilitated Group Therapy is about six months.
I can see some very exciting theraputic applications of this technology, at the moment one of m part time, when I have some, activities is with a developing local respite service for difficult children. I've been avoiding directly dealing with the little gits myself but I have been working with the parents and professionals on the project. I can see from what I know of the work done with the kids that in some cases this sort of thing may be of help and would save some of the therapists going ga ga so quickly.
The other area I could see it being used is the other side than I deal with in the abusive relationships fields, that of the men(sic) who have 'anger management issues', aka spineless wimps who get off on beating on people weaker than themselves in other words - guess why I am not often asked to work directly with these arseholes
. As already in that area role play and scearios are used but these are difficult to contruct well and do require very skilled therapists to conduct.However the problem is that technology is rarely driven by the benefical uses and it is the commercial ones that get the big slice of the development pie.
Originally I started here following discussion with a friend about the PUA incident of I suppose 9 months ago and recently this has becoem a theme again, so I have done a little digging and am gob smaked about the commercial size of this rubbish. Running seminars for sado men who think manipulaing women is a good idea is massively lucrative and this sort of technology would have real applications there.
To date one hand typing is still the biggest business on the internet, the last time I checked, about a year ago, for all non sex based dollar spent on the internet the sex sites and services were still making a couple of dollars.
Techology like this will have a massive impact in that area an even the one hand typist brigade who are not using it implicitly to learn how to talk to women are going to get a very warped view of women from it and this is going to have a negative impact in the way tey treat women. Lets face it Sultry Suzie is not going to be programmed to be an avid bagger who likes to discuss politics and her interest in collecting pre Edwardian Porceline dolls, is she?
Yes.. but some people just can't do the therapy thing. I do admire people who can and from what i've read of you you have this massive drive, I really wish I had it! It's a bit like an ex smoker who thinks that everybody else should quit a bit though, it's just not that easy.
When my middle child was diagnosed autistic we introduced him to the xbox and I was surprised at how quickly he took to it and how much calmer he became at home. I could see something like this being really beneficial.
Yeah I remember when handbag was swamped with the PUA lot... baggers swiftly deal with them when they pop back.. I was glad of the education though at the very least as i'd never heard of 'the game' it's quite an eye opener. Yes it might be big but I doubt that it's that big in the grand scheme of things.. and as with everything it's open to some sort of abuse and no doubt that it will be abused. The one handed typest brigade will always find their kicks somewhere whether this becomes public or not.
The one thing I get concerned about with the video game thing is how it can skew your mind up a little bit... so the danger comes when these people with a warped sense of woman or reality decide to take it into the real world because they've become desensitised.. but even then it's a small percentage of people.
When my middle child was diagnosed autistic we introduced him to the xbox and I was surprised at how quickly he took to it and how much calmer he became at home. I could see something like this being really beneficial.
Yeah I remember when handbag was swamped with the PUA lot... baggers swiftly deal with them when they pop back.. I was glad of the education though at the very least as i'd never heard of 'the game' it's quite an eye opener. Yes it might be big but I doubt that it's that big in the grand scheme of things.. and as with everything it's open to some sort of abuse and no doubt that it will be abused. The one handed typest brigade will always find their kicks somewhere whether this becomes public or not.
The one thing I get concerned about with the video game thing is how it can skew your mind up a little bit... so the danger comes when these people with a warped sense of woman or reality decide to take it into the real world because they've become desensitised.. but even then it's a small percentage of people.
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